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The Tesla Switch

Use for the Tesla Switch

Dear Peter,

Since you and Bedini have history you might know a thing or two about the 'Tesla Switch' and alike

systems. I think these systems might be a good addition for these No-back emf motor designs

especially since they can be driven like dc low ohmic induction loads. Not much input is lost in the

form of heat and such.

For those who do not know what I am talking about read:

THE TESLA SWITCH

And

http://www.panaceauniversity.org/D3.pdf

Start at page 25 (to 36)

So this post is kind of a double post. On the one hand I see the Tesla Switch having huge

advantages, but on the other hand, except for the Bedini page there is no real info to be found

anywhere about this system... Why? well Peter what is your take on the Tesla Switch, and in case

Bedini is reading this, please feel free to jump in.

Thanks!

Steven

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08-23-2007, 06:30 PM

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4 Battery Switching Circuit

Quote:

Originally Posted by nali2001

Dear Peter,

Since you and Bedini have history you might know a thing or two about the 'Tesla Switch' and

alike systems. I think these systems might be a good addition for these No-back emf motor designs

especially since they can be driven like dc low ohmic induction loads. Not much input is lost in

the form of heat and such.

For those who do not know what I am talking about read:

THE TESLA SWITCH

And

http://www.panaceauniversity.org/D3.pdf

Start at page 25 (to 36)

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So this post is kind of a double post. On the one hand I see the Tesla Switch having huge

advantages, but on the other hand, except for the Bedini page there is no real info to be found

anywhere about this system... Why? well Peter what is your take on the Tesla Switch, and in case

Bedini is reading this, please feel free to jump in.

Thanks!

Steven

Steven,

As can be seen in the first file, the original circuit was developed by Ronald Brandt. The 1983 date

of the Brandt circuit pre-dates John's work on this system. Ron's circuits used mechanical contacters

as switches, but apparently worked quite well, as long as the contacters lasted. John was the first to

adapt this circuit to solid-state switching, using the SG 1524 dual flip-flop functions and bipolar

transistors as the switches. So, exactly why this is called the Tesla Switch is beyond me.

John has told me that his "cigar box" unit ran a small electric motor for more than 6 months without

discharging the batteries AT ALL. He also told me that the original working model was smashed by

a "guest" in his shop who was infuriated by its operation, while John was out of the room. At this

point, he decided not to rebuild it. I know John personally, and have no reason to doubt this report.

Obviously, the voltage drops in the transistors and diodes present a CONSTANT loss during

operation, not to mention the energy dissipated at the load. Therefore, the system defies all standard

explanations and energy use equations. The batteries apparently stay charged and run loads

simultaneously for a reason that is not conventional.

Since Ronald Brandt has run a car on this system, and John Bedini has run small motors on

miniaturized version, it seems reasonable to assume it is worthy of more study by experimenters.

I have a copy of a lengthy report, written by Eike Mueller, dated September 3, 1984 that discusses

tests of this system. Perhaps John would be willing to comment further on this at some point. But

maybe he won't. After all, it was John's demonstration of this system at the Tesla Conference in

1984 that precipitated the events that culminated in having his life threatened if he continued his

work on it.

I know of no one who has had their life threatened for working on a technology that didn't work!

Peter

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08-23-2007, 08:46 PM

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Hi Peter and thanks for the reply.

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nali2001

Yeah the name Tesla Switch is not too clear. Some seem to say/claim that Tesla used this 4 battery

flipping system in his remote controlled boat or something.

Now then I must say that at this point I’m not all that concerned about the over unity effect due to

the faster switching and electron thing. But the simplest version alone will be very interesting. And

could indeed be used in electric vehicles and the like.

To put it in laymen’s terms:

Normally you run a load to a 'ground' which stays 0v all the time so, it is an infinite sink. But in this

situation you replace this ground with a charging battery. So the first 12v battery powers the load

until the second battery has reached 6v. So both batteries are now at 6v. But connected in series

they are still 12v combined. Now you can discharge that 12v in series batteries AGAIN trough a

load to a depleted battery. Until that one also reached 6v. Some test at overunity.com have

indicated that you can expect at least 50% more work form the same initial battery charge.

One thing I also find somewhat hart to understand is how does this Tesla Switch battery swapping

technique behave when the load converts all the ‘electricity’ to something else like heat. Does that

mean the secondary battery will not get a charge at all?

And how does the energy balance look like when we use this battery swapping technique for

powering a low ohm, low heat loss (no back emf) motor, which runs a generator?

Now I don’t want to sound greedy (lol) but I would be very interested in that report you say you

have. Well any additional info on this system for that matter. So if you want to share it please do. I

understand that it probably is not in ‘a digital form’ right now. So instead of typing the whole report

over. You could also just take pictures of the pages.

So anyway if you feel like sharing you can just mail them to me (or post them here) It will be very

much appreciated.

One thing that always baffles me is the fact that every time things in this field needs to be re-tried. I

mean there are so many ‘old’ Ideas like this 'Tesla Switch' floating around and then again except for

a few schematics no additional information or replications are to be found. Same with Ecklin stuff

and such.

Thanks and kind regards.

Steven

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08-24-2007, 12:09 AM

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Hi all

I'm new here, but I already have attempted to make the Tesla switch. At that time I did not know

much about radiant energy and Bedini motors as I do now, that's why I did not have much success.

My circuit looked like this:

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Jetijs

http://www.bildez.lv/bildes/jetijs/s...1187198552.gif

The batteries were 1.3Ah lead/acid type.

The oscilator is not shown in this circuit. Slodze=Load. I tried a

small car bulb (1 Ohm) as a load. The bulb was powered through a

bridge rectifier (not shown in the circuit)

First I tried the switch at a low frequency, about 10Hz, everything

seemed fine, the transistors got a little warm and the car bulb

lighted up, but not as bright as when in direct connection to a

battery. Then I increased the frequency to about 250Hz. The bulb

brightness remained the same, the transistors felt a little warmer. I

measured 4.3VDc across the bulb and 0.77Amps. But after few hours the

the light of the bulb turned weaker and slowly the amperage across the

bulb dropped too.

Now I know, that there are some problems with this circuit. First of all as Rick Friedrich said, I

should have used NPN transistors instead of PNP because PNPs allow current through constantly,

and NPN only when the trigger Base is gated. Also the load was too big for these batteries. The load

should be such that the batteries are discharged in the c/20 rate. That means that the load should

draw only 65mA. This is because a larger current draw would cause heating in the batteries and that

is not good. Now I will try out the circuit with the NPN transistors:

http://www.bildez.lv/bildes/jetijs/s...1187931758.gif

Here's the complete circuit with the oscillator part.

http://www.bildez.lv/bildes/jetijs/s...1187931936.gif

Maybe it will help someone. Or maybe someone has anything to add?

Edit: I read somewhere that the name "Tesla switch" is due to the fact, that Nikola Tesla gave this

information to a friend. Then later this friend of Tesla shared his knowledge with John Bedini. From

here this circuit is called a Tesla switch I do not know if that is how it actually happened.

Thanks,

Jetijs

Last edited by Jetijs : 08-24-2007 at 12:13 AM.

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08-24-2007, 07:00 PM

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Report on 4 Battery Switcher

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Originally Posted by nali2001

Hi Peter and thanks for the reply.

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Now I don’t want to sound greedy (lol) but I would be very interested in that report you say you

have. Well any additional info on this system for that matter. So if you want to share it please do.

I understand that it probably is not in ‘a digital form’ right now. So instead of typing the whole

report over. You could also just take pictures of the pages.

So anyway if you feel like sharing you can just mail them to me (or post them here) It will be very

much appreciated.

Thanks and kind regards.

Steven

Steven,

I spoke with John this morning concerning your request for a copy of the Eike Mueller Report. He

has no problem with me posting it, but also said he would not be commenting on it in this forum, or

anywhere else. He said he agrees with us, that Ron Brandt showed him the circuit and that he

doesn't even know why it was called the Tesla Switch .

I'll scan the document into a .pdf file over the weekend and get Aaron to show me how to post it.

Peter

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08-24-2007, 08:47 PM

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Many thanks in advance for that document Peter (and John) the info and effort is much appreciated!

I know I am being a pain (lol) but when you ever feel like releasing your old Flux motor or/and

generator documentation/notes (you know, the "fluxgate generator thingy") Please let me know!

Many thanks!

Kind regards

Steven

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08-26-2007, 08:27 PM

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